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From: pacaussie  Nov-4 3:55 am 
To: ALL  (1 of 13) 
 20409.1 
In the 1950's I read a mystery which began with "the perfect murder" when a man pushed his victim off a cliff as they were out walking. He reasoned that it would be seen as an unfortunate accident. At some point the murderer creates a dugout hideaway for himself somewhere out in the countryside. That is all I recall. I had thought it was by Edmund Crispin but my searches seem to indicate that I am mistaken. I would be pleased if anyone can give me the name of the book and the author.
 
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From: ladyklt  Nov-4 7:53 am 
To: pacaussie unread  (2 of 13) 
 20409.2 in reply to 20409.1 
Well, there's an Agatha Christie (The Boomerang Clue, also published as "Why Didn't They Ask Evans?") that begins with a man being pushed over a cliff. The death is initially ruled an accident because everyone knows that particular spot is very dangerous and people have been lobbying to get a fence put up but it hasn't happened yet. No dugout hideaway, though.
 
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From: Rocambole  Nov-4 10:01 am 
To: pacaussie unread  (3 of 13) 
 20409.3 in reply to 20409.1 
The dugout den reminds me of 'Rogue Male' by Geoffrey Household, though in that the hero's hiding out from assassins hunting him for his attempt to assassinate Hitler (not named in the original book, but that's obviously who's meant).

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From: oldguy  Nov-4 12:55 pm 
To: Rocambole  (4 of 13) 
 20409.4 in reply to 20409.3 
I'm with you, Rocambole.
BTW, the person who is pushed off the cliff in the beginning is the protagonist, who miraculously survives and the chase begins.
Coincidentally I re-read this a few weeks ago, prompted by watching the 1941 film "Manhunt" starring Walter Pidgeon that was made from it. The film is not very good (though it does have a few nice Fritz Lang touches), the book is still terrific. There is another British version - possibly made for TV in the 70s - starring Peter O'Toole that is very faithful and worth watching, IMO.
 
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From: Rocambole  Nov-4 2:23 pm 
To: oldguy  (5 of 13) 
 20409.5 in reply to 20409.4 
So he is; I'd forgotten that. I do like the 40s film version personally, though I'll have to see if I can find a copy of the O'Toole one.

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From: oldguy  Nov-4 3:38 pm 
To: Rocambole  (6 of 13) 
 20409.6 in reply to 20409.5 
The O'Toole is the one to watch, IMO - it's an unusually faithful adaptation and he's great.
 
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From: EL_M  Nov-4 10:53 pm 
To: Rocambole  (7 of 13) 
 20409.7 in reply to 20409.3 
I read somewhere that it was Stalin....

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From: EL_M  Nov-4 10:54 pm 
To: oldguy unread  (8 of 13) 
 20409.8 in reply to 20409.4 
There was a sequel to the book - kind of interesting but not so much I remember the title...

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From: Rocambole  Nov-5 12:43 am 
To: oldguy unread  (9 of 13) 
 20409.9 in reply to 20409.6 
O'Toole's usually value for money anyway!

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From: Rocambole  Nov-5 12:44 am 
To: EL_M  (10 of 13) 
 20409.10 in reply to 20409.8 
'Rogue Justice'. It was written in the 80s, so I suspected it was a late cash-in and never read it....

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From: molly_grue  Nov-5 6:16 am 
To: oldguy unread  (11 of 13) 
 20409.11 in reply to 20409.4 
Look here.
 
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From: EL_M  Nov-5 8:00 am 
To: Rocambole  (12 of 13) 
 20409.12 in reply to 20409.10 
It was pretty feeble...had some good moments though, and most unusually it started from the exact point where the other one ended.

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From: Rocambole  Nov-5 9:06 am 
To: EL_M  (13 of 13) 
 20409.13 in reply to 20409.12 
I am vaguely curious - if I ever see a cheap copy I might pick it up, but....

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